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Проблема такая: Месяца полтора назад началось плавание оборотов на горячую, после хорошего прогрева (например, 40 минут езды с работы). Проявлялось не всегда, но частенько. Колбасило двиг на холостых – как будто задыхается или наоборот захлебывается вплоть до того, что глохнет. Ездил на диагностику (плюс самодиагностика) – показало ошибку P0172/26 – богатая смесь! Больше никаких ошибок не показало! Чек не горит!
Что сделано: Заменены свечи, Почистили дроссельный узел и РХХ со снятием. Поменял наконечники на катушках. Проверили герметичность впуска – нормально.
Дополнительные симптомы:- Как говорил- проявлялась проблема на холостых, но недавно (выдался теплый день и длительная поездка) трабл проявился и в движении – Опять плавание оборотов + стоял на перекрестке - зеленый- давлю на газ – реакции ноль, т.е едет на 1000 оборотов, на первой передаче, на педаль газа не реагирует никак! Через метров 50 очухалась, поехал, потом снова повторилось…ближе к дому уже… (коробка в порядке!).
После этого чистил Расходометр воздуха (ДМРВ или MAF) (спиртом на нити побрызгал) – никаких изменений, но он и не грязный был…
На холодную и горячую (до 80 градусов) никаких проявлений нет, все идеально! Только после длительной нагрузки, на хорошо прогретом двигателе – и то не каждый раз. В машину до начала проблем не лазил!
А вопросы мучают меня такие:
1) Богатая смесь – значит либо не сгорает, либо подается с излишком, либо не хватает воздуха ???
2) Если не сгорает – либо свечи, либо катушки, но свечи новые, катушки (пробовал отключать-начинает троить) значит рабочие, да и когда на акселератор не реагировала не могли же они все 4 вырубиться???
3) Подается с излишком – Какой-то датчик??? Кислородный?? От него машина будет глохнуть??? Не реагировать на акселератор??? (кстати Лямбду я пробовал отключать На холостых) – никаких изменений, Чек не загорался, даже самодиагностика не показала..) расход в норме (10 литров – зима) , ДПДЗ??? – показало бы.. да и на холостых он вроде не влияет??
4) Не хватает воздуха??? – Воздушный фильтр пылесосил.., ДМРВ – почистил.. если отключить – сразу глохнет, значит ДМРВ рабочий???
5) Бензонасос умирает??? – После нагрузки??? Тогда почему смесь богатая???
6) Грязный топливный фильтр, Форсунки??? Но они и на холодную грязные???…а проблема только на горячую….
7) Адсорбер??? Его электромагнитный клапан??? Может влиять..как проверить???
Денег на еще одну диагностику жалко…может коллективный разум поможет..?)))
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Ну...это Кислородный датчик или он же Лямбда зонд..)))) Я про него и написал...Может ли от него машина глохнуть??? Или даже на акселератор не реагировать??? Просто обычно он в случае выхода из строя на расход влияет, в сторону его увеличения...(вот только я не заметил у себя увеличения расхода) Я вообще с него фишку скинул хотел проехаться по пробовать...но сегодня не ездил.... как прокачусь отпишусь...
Не знаю как на runx(пока такой проблемы нет)но была у меня toyota marino так когда навернулься ЛЯМБДА-ЗОНД машина тупила просто ужас,жмешь резко на газ а она мычит и не едет.так я вот я к чему может тут как-то так проявляет себя умерший датчик.Если менять то только на оригинал,универсальный за 800р отработал чуть больше месяца
Да! И самый прикол...что когда я его отключил, даже ошибки ни какой не вылезло...мож правда он умер и так мне моск парит..)))))
Я 3 дня мучался думал что с машиной ну не едит и все делал диагностику 3 раза нет ошибок ,расход конский 18литров заправил 120 км проехал бак сухой ,тупит жестоко на газ не отзываиться ,решил скинуть клему с лямбды, почему к лямбде полез просто на субаре когда умерала теже симптомы были замена все исправила , ну и вот покатался 1 день без лямбды чек горит машина поехала (когда отключаешь лямбду комп начинает работать в аварийном или в штатном режими ,отключение и езда без лямбды грозит забиванием катализатора ,поставил новый лямбда зонд все встало на свои места .
Я не знаю, каким оружием будет вестись Третья мировая война, но в Четвёртой будут использоваться палки и камни. — Письмо президенту США Гарри Трумену, 1945 г Альберт Эйнштейн.
Я не знаю, каким оружием будет вестись Третья мировая война, но в Четвёртой будут использоваться палки и камни. — Письмо президенту США Гарри Трумену, 1945 г Альберт Эйнштейн.
Я не знаю, каким оружием будет вестись Третья мировая война, но в Четвёртой будут использоваться палки и камни. — Письмо президенту США Гарри Трумену, 1945 г Альберт Эйнштейн.
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